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. the government gets the money from us. i do not see how they have the right to sit there and play politics with each other and try to make decisions that are going to just benefit them. maybe a small part of the population. this is the united states. we're supposed to be tried to help everybody. we cannot be scared of what is clear to happen to us when many people are barely able to meet their bills. they may have to be afraid of what is going to happen to them. what kind of government would do that to their people? they should try to make us feel calm. like we are really going to get something done. host: from crawford, indiana this morning. on twitter -- another tweet i want to read this morning -- jodi wrtes in -- we will be taking your calls all of this morning for this segment and the next segment on the "washington journal." we told you what was going on in the senate. here is "roll-call" newspaper and what is being prepped in the house today -- alan ota writes, the speaker made it clear -- that is what is going on in the house. let's go to charles on a republican line from maryland.
a social security, medicare, medicaid. that is not the only entitlements. every government program that has a retirement benefit, a health-care benefit, those are entitlements, two, up to and including the entitlements for the congressman. let's be fair. when they start talking about entitlements and hold it to those three items, let's hold their feet to the fire and make them talk about entitlements for the other folks, too. host: appreciate you calling this morning. donna writes about this on twitter. if that to facebook here. -- back to you facebook here. budget showdown hits the keep week. that is of the front page reminding us of the deadline looming. it is a bloomberg story here out of the district. i you can watch the byplay here on the c-span that works with the president heading back to town tonight. the senate and house are due back tomorrow. billy from jacksonville, florida, to life for waiting. caller: i am very optimistic but i worry that the president will not get a chance because lindsey gramm already stated he will fight. i think there will already be another big fight for t
-span would have more programs dealing with all of the options that could lessen the burden on the government and the taxpayer for the medical costs. i believe that in medicare buy- in -- i have 10 years left to go until medicare. i pay $620 a month for my health care. that is a lot of money. i would give that to the government and would usn't use t $100 or $200 a year. host: that is an important issue. we will focus more as the affordable care act t kicks in. for the suggestion -- thank you for the suggestion. the deficit is close to $16.4 trillion. this is part of the debate we will see at the start of the new congress. the so-called fiscal cliff was coined by ben bernanke. the story from "roll call." "it could be reached over this weekend." were heard from the house rules committee chairman yesterday. they are taking steps in advance to extend these tax cuts. a deal could be on the floor today if there is an agreement. from "the washington times" this morning. "offers fly, but still no agreement" is the headline. mitch mcconnell bypassed senator reid to speak directly to the vice president
between 40 and $65,000 a year will have to pay an extra two grand to the government. gregg: coming up we'll talk with republican nick mulvaney whose house budget committee is obviously on the forefront of the fiscal talk. so we'll try to get the latest from him in just a moment. patti ann: meanwhile, gregg, we have new warnings from the treasury department that if a fiscal deal isn't reached our government will have to turn to extraordinary measures when the debt limit hits its ceiling. $16.4 trillion probably on monday. fox business network's stuart varney joins us now. hi, stu. you say this is the big story people aren't talking about? >> it is a sleeper issue, patti ann. on monday the government officially runs out of money and it can not borrow anymore. so it will have to shift all kind of cash around to make sure they can pay their bills and maybe they can do that for a couple of months. means you can kick the can, eight weeks be maybe, until the absolute crunch comes. there are consequences to this. it could be that america will be downgraded again. after all back in august of 2011
or canceled. or to tell various agency the-- the t.s.a., f.a.a., all through the federal government, lay people off, this is real, because they seaport negotiations are not getting anywhere near a deal and they have to prepare for the cutting side of the fiscal cliff, not just the taxes. >> o'donnell: and, nancy, if there is no deal, what happens next on monday? >> reporter: essentially we move to plan b, where senates democrat introduce their own plan in the senate that caps the bush tax cuts ap at $250,000 or less, extends long-term unemployment benefits, maybe imposing spending cuts to push off the sequester for six months or a year and we see if the republicans allow a straight up-or-down votes that only requires 50 senators to vote yes or if we have to go to a 60-vote threshold. democrats think they can get the seven republicans they need-- they think they might be able to get up to 10 who have signaled they could go along with something like this. that's not the end of the road. even if it passes, it has to go to the house and that's a tricky road as well. >> o'donnell: let's turn
a message from the tea party members everywhere. destroying government is not good politics. you are acting against the majority rule right now. you are trying to bring down the majority government by obstruction. people will remember. people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you don't have to be as clear as i but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, once again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed? >> i think republicans will get blamed, but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-
will govern more in the mode of his first two years when he was governor of massachusetts? they uniformly said they'd be disappointed and in fact labrador one of the stars of the tea party featured in my book said there would be an insurrection. people say we have been really boisterous. you have seen nothing yet. if president romney behaves like a conservative it's going to be the death of the republican party. >> i am just going to let that sit there for a second and let that sink right in. [laughter] let's come back to the leadership. i want to ask you specifically as individuals and as a threesome that way they do or do not work well together, boehner cantor and mccarthy. characterize each one in shorthand beginning with speaker boehner. >> john boehner is a washington lifer and was not the obvious choice to be leading this sort of tea party crafts. nonetheless you can see the tea party phenomenon for the trade -- freight train that it was an elected to be on the train rather than underneath it. speaker boehner campaigned heavily for a number of the tea party freshman andy also you know be
this is coming up. the government will continue to function for a couple more months. emergency measures will be used to keep the money flowing, so to speak. this is unrelated to the fiscal cliff, so it's an additional problem that everybody has to deal with. of course the worst thing is we know how horrible it was the last time the debt ceiling needed to be raised in the summer of 2011, it went down to the wire and it looked as if there was a chance the united states would not raise the borrowing limit and default. we heard talk about social security payments not going out and that kind of thing. that's all led to the first downgrade in the u.s. credit rating, the stock market tanked. that was a ugly scenario. on top of the fiscal cliff, we may go through this all over again. it's another drag on the markets and on the whole economy at exactly the wrong time. >> when you say drag, though, give us an example of what you mean. we talked about january 2nd, everybody goes back to work and markets open. are we going to see a lot of volatility. all of a sudden it crashes down at once. what ha
communications are looked at by the government. people want amendments. unfortunately congress once again is acting at the last minute trying to renew something about to expire and there is probably not the time to do revisions that are necessary. that's a problem here. harris: because critics want this to be revised as you just put it. the white house doesn't. it wants it to pass the way it is. a lot of people are in favor of it because it is helping to keep us safe since there is homegrown terror in the united states and we need to find it. i want to if which have the words put it up on the screen. kentucky senator rand paul had this to say on the senate floor yesterday. and what he was basically saying is that this interferes and disputes the power of the fourth amendment. and that it needs to be changed. again, dan, you say we may not see any changes to it because the deadline is tuesday? >> it is really important to note that even the supporters of renewing acknowledge there needs to be reform. there needs to be more oversight. we need to know more how the fisa court works. we want m
, to pay for more government spending that doesn't help us with the deficit. and you hear members of congress, your republican colleagues who say, in my district, they don't want more spending. and that's how they see this money being spent. >> two things i would say. first of all, that is not the democratic position. no one that i know of is arguing that all of the increased revenue should go for increased spending nap simply isn't the case. by the way not having the sequester doesn't mean increased spending. it mean not having spending cuts. i voted against the idea of a sequester. i think it's not right way to do it. what the republicans want to do is spend more on defense. let me deal with this notion that republicans for cutting spending. you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, people in their districts, gee, if they represent districts in new jerse
an actual all-time high again. anyway, among the catalysts, a new pro-business government preparing to assume leadership, incoming prime minister shinzo abe. what is it, 50,000 that it has to get to? >> 39,000 i believe is the peak. >> who's counting, right? that's a ways off. >> yeah. far away. >> shinzo abe has been putting pressure on the bank of japan to raise its inflation target in hopes of extricating the country from two decades of deflation. i guess if you just raised the target -- >> that would help. >> okay. >> it doesn't matter what your target is if you can't hit it. >> we found that out here. >>> meantime, in europe markets are closed for the boxing day holiday. seems weird to do it just for a bunch of people to -- >> box up the gifts and return them. >> it's not a -- >> bad, i know. >> it is boxing. what kind of boxing are we -- boxer rebellion? >> i've never understood boxing day. >> we have to look it up. >> i literally have no idea. >> or it's on google. no, is there anything on google that is different? let me see. just a regular -- >> is there their our way to fi
. if it cannot abe future that is 100% in accordance with its core beliefs and principles that's not governing. that's lobbing hand grenades. if you are only stabbeding on principle to appear taller, then you appear smaller, and the gop is shrinking daily before our eyes. if leadership casting vision, calling all your people to rise up, and we just watched what happened with lan b and speaker boehner trying to call his people to rise up, and you say his leadership really not in question unless paul ryan really wants it. do you think that people having these types of perspectives, like a mark mckinnan, that doesn't really ring true coming into the new year for speaker boehner. >> look, the problem for republicans and for moderate republicans like mark mckinnan is most of the people in the house are not of the mark mckinnan stripe. these are people who are from districts where they've won with 60% of the vote or more. the majority of them. the majority of their constituents don't want them to compromise on things that they find important like taxes. why someone like mitt romney winds up getting
day pain relief with just two pills. >>> look, look. >> this is syria today. government war plains bombed the city of homs. it happened in alep powe as well. at least 80 people are reported dead across the country today. air strikes like these or in street fighting. these twin boys were among the 160 people killed in syria yesterday. it is so tragic. this is where they died. the man who shot this video said that syrian military artillery hit their home. it happen add few miles from where more than a hundred civilians died in a government air strike just a few days ago. >>> a man sent to syria to try to negotiate the end to the civil war says it could be over in a come of months. he's meeting with both sides in damascus, the rebels as well as the leaders. he speaks for thenited nations, not just syria. >> translator: some say i have come here to market a russian american project. i wish i could. there is no russian american problem so hence i did not come to market it. >> i want to bring in richard ross. brahimi is somebody who's very well respect bud somebody who's optimistic. when
this point, rahm emanuel i say the republican party steeply provided to turn this small government land and no government land. there is a truth that not far. i am told we are now at our time. i want mickey to come back with a few closing comments. a part of this but that hasn't gotten as much attention in season mention that i like the bromides we should ignore chapter, which i would reach of the political system will collect no, no. third party to the, no. budget amendment say no. term limits they say no and public financing of elections no. but then i have a whole bunch of things they say yes to and i propose we have an election between the shadow congress and the current congress and then we can see who wins. so let me invite everybody to do closing comments. >> just going down a couple of these. does this represent the republican party as a whole. as citizens just said no, but it does represent is who vote in primaries. so it's a matter of you can't he on the ballot. every state in the united states has a sore looser law from which means if you cluster primary come you can't appear
and scope of government in a way responsible to the voters of that midterm election. instead what we're almost certain to see is an expansion of government in the name of reintroducing it. we're likely to see much bigger government long term. we're not likely to deal with entitlement reforms as we need to do. as you suggest the president is pushing some short-term spending increases often in washington turn into long-term spending increases. gregg: but, steve, bill kristol, conservative, you know what, time to throw in the towel. you do not want to get blamed for raising taxes on 98% of americans. >> right. gregg: right? >> look, bill kristol is my boss and editor at "the weekly standard" and one of most handsome and well-regarded editors in the country as everybody knows. look, i think he was making what was, in effect a practical case. there are people who are making this case behind the scenes. you have seen, he said, get it over with. move beyond this. there are others saying absolutely not. republicans can't cave on the principle of raising tacks. i think interesting thing in wh
. but if the bill never arrives, what incentive do people have to stop spending? big government is great if you don't have to pay for it. well, now it's time to pay for the bill. maybe when the costs of the stimulus, the obamacare and exploding entitlements are finally deducted from their pay much checks americans will rediscover the virtue of smaller government." doesn't he have a point if we have expanded the size of government so much under president bush and president obama, isn't it time to see somebody pay higher taxes? >> well, the way to economic recovery and growth is not by raising tax rates on the very people that employ the workers you want to keep working. raising taxes is not going to provide the kind of growth that we need in the country to lift the people in the middle income and lower income brackets higher and to provide the capital that's necessary to invest in the markets to hire more people. that's why both senator schumer and i are committed to trying to resolve this cliff problem because -- yes, it would be a very difficult thing and if you want to go back into a recession an
the democrat and the republican parties. it's about the role of government in americans' lives. lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic negotiation over this ideological divided america, randi. >> so how likely is it we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today, but i still would say the odds -- the people who are placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than when we woke up this morning but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. randi. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist ross douthat the and cornell. the president said he wanted to see a straight up-or-down vote. as we mentioned that, will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose t
a archaic 1947 law, unless the new bill is passed by december 31st, the government will be forced to buy vast quantities of milk at twice the wholesale rate. two bills are in congress. the senate passed one for $23 billion in savings. the house is looking to enact 35 billion. the sticking point the full house of representatives hasn't approved the bill. >> the farm bill is like this low hanging ornament on the congressional christmas tree that if they just embrace it, they can automatically come up with tens of billions of dollars in budget savings. and then they can figure out where else they need to cut spending after that. >> reporter: the secretary of agriculture tom vilsack has said his department is preparing a case the permanent law comes into effect. temporary solution is to attach a farm bill extension to the fiscal cliff legislation. harris? harris: is there anything besides milk we need to be aware of? are we looking potentially at higher prices among many farming commodities for example? >> reporter: yeah. it is not just the cows. it is the crops too. it is possibility the go
the database and they monitor them? >> wait a minute, this is the government. >> they are outing them like they have done something wrong. >> no, no. you have a permit to own a gun. >> it's a symptom. a greater disease. >> no, you have a permit to own the gun. the government said here, and it's freedom of information. >> would you be comfortable with your address outed? >> my address is. >> how about the writer ares of the journal news? >> the guy who wrote the article revealed he owns a gun. >> look, i'm in the phone book, i'm in the newspaper. i mean, you know the thing is for all of us. >> call me. >> thank you. >> but for all of us, there's a high degree of risk. one thing greg says on the show which is true, we are guarded. what people guard us? that's not the issue. so it's not that i'm anti-second amendment, i'm just saying let's be realistic. there's a public safety issue about people having too easy access to guns. >> you have it backwards. you have it backwards. if you took the whole country and did the same thing on the map of the country, the safest places to win would be the o
and they passed a severe loss where all existing guns had to be turned in. the government bought them back. after a certain date if they were in your home, you were arrested. they have had a decrease in crime and suicide, which is an interesting development. it seems to me, you either have to go that route, which you cannot in the u.s. -- gun ownership in australia was 5% of households. gallup has shown is 47% here. we have the second amendment and the hisry back to washington. given that we are a different culture, the kinds of laws that we pass are almost always an effective as a result, because there are00 million weapons out there today. unless you recall them the way that australia did, and we cannot do that -- you would have a reservoir that would last 100 years. >> you can imagine what would happen. there would be an insurrection. >> you do not have to permit guns -- and i understand they are already there -- but you do not simply not do something because it is already a problem. right now>> you can imagine whad happen. there would be an insurrection. , we allowed guns that are made specif
on the capital. they're search-rich and is a former french colony. they say the government is not honoring a cease five including release of political leaders. >> back in the u.s., the storm has come and gone and at least 16 deaths are blamed on the weather. in hard-hit arkansas, more than 135 homes and businesses remain without power. edward lawrence reporting. >> reporter: snow blowers and plows are pushing through a foot of snow in the upstate new york. the icy snow is a challenge for those who only have a shovel. >> it's been brutal. >> reporter: the storm drops several inches in the northeast and new england making it hard to get out and get around. streets are a problem in west virginia and maryland. this woman skit off the road and hit a mailbox. >> we just lost control. yeah, pretty scary. >> reporter: the weather is part of the same mass av system that crossed the country this week dumping snow from the west coast to the east coast and creating powerful tornadoes in the south. bad weather continues to delay flights in the northeast. that's bad news for holiday travelers trying to
they take a data base to monitor them in the nefarious way. >> juan: this is the government. >> andrea: they are outing them like they have done something wrong. the same way you are carded if you buy allergy medication. symptom of greater disease. gawps you have a permit to own a gun. >> andrea: would you be comfortable if the address was out just mine is. >> andrea: writers of the journal news. >> juan: the guy wrote the article revealed he owns a gun. i am in the phone book. it neem the newspaper. >> kimberly: call me. >> juan: thank you. for all of us, there is a high degree of risk. one thing that greg says on the show that is true, we're guarded. people guard us. that is not the issue. i'm not anti-second amendment but be realistic. there is a public safety issue with people access to guns. >> eric: you have it backwards. >> juan: thank you. >> eric: if you took the country and did the same thing on the map of the country the safest places to live with the places with lots of dots not with no dots. >> juan: you are wrong. >> eric: i'm not. >> juan: i live in urban america. 34 peo
geithner says the government will hit the debt ceiling on monday and he is launching an emergency plan to avert a crisis. amm eamon javers is live. what do we know? >> the president is coming back early, a couple days earlier than his vacation. did a little bit of jogging, working out in the gym over his vacation. now he will be,ing would out on this fiscal cliff. the senate is coming back and the house of representatives is going to have a conference call for all republicans later on today and then yesterday, we saw the secretary of the treasury, tim geithner, announced the $16.4 trillion debt limit is going to be reached by monday, that was a little bit surprising to people who haven't been following this kind of thing and raises the stakes for the fiscal cliff end game because the white house had wanted a debt ceiling deal as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still
is about the fundamental difference, the role of government in americans' lives. lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to p
the political brinksmanship of recent months that highlights america's governance becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable. we believe this characterization still holds. do you know this congress, your congress, has done more harm than good? do you feel embarrassed being part of a congress that ranks up there with the do-nothing congresses of all time? >> i think america should be embarrassed by its leadership in washington, d.c. but that extends to the white house, senate, and house of representatives. this has been the most predi predictable disaster coming at us for a number of years, and certainly months. and the fact that we have been unable to do things and instead worried about our next elections instead of the next generation of americans, i think it's sinful and i hope that people turn out those who have been responsible for it. >> congressman, you're a straight shooter, we always appreciate you coming "outfront." >>> next, mixed feelings about gun crot. most americans support a ban on assault weapons but also support the nra. >>> plus, allegations of child abuse a
said the government will blow through the borrowing limit that congress set in 2011. he warned the window to act is narrow or else a treasury could default. in washington, lisa will walk us through. first, let's explain what exactly the debt limit is and it sounds like maxing out a credit card, but not precisely so. >> that's right. it is not like maxing out your credit card. we are going to make it as interesting as possible. it is important. the debt limit is not like maxing out your credit card. this is money we spent as a nation. this is a lot more like buying a house. committing to a $200,000 house and signing the papers and imposing a rule on yourself that you can only borrow $100,000. you need $200,000 and you spent the money, but you have the cap that you imposed on yourself. that's what the debt limit is. we will look at where we are with this handy graphic. the debt limit is $16.394 trillion. where are we now? we are at 16.337. we are just under the limit. almost reached our capacity. >> getting that far, it's our own fault and putting ourselves in this predicament. o
's government unleashes its most sophisticated weapons of the war. missiles from iran. we'd like to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm candy crowley and you're in "the situation room." >>> i want to begin with a crisis you probably don't know is coming and, of course, is just about to hit. barring a last minute deal, union dock workers at more than a dozen major ports will go on strike this weekend. meaning just about everything we buy, from clothes to cars, can't be unloaded. the strike would impact 14 port along the eastern seaboard in gulf coast, including the port of baltimore and that's where we find cnn's brian todd live. the potential impact of this is pretty big. >> reporter: it's huge, candy. right here, this is one of the most crucial ports for commerce in this region. the sieger terminal. you can see massive container ships sitting in port. this is the port terminal with the bustling operations, containers still being moved in and out of here by a truck that are being offloaded from the ships here at the terminal. about
geithner has warned congress hat u.s. will reach its debt ceiling on monday. that is when the government reaches its legal borrowing limit. now, this could pose a bigger threat to the nation's credit rating than the fiscal cliff. treasury can keep the government operating for a few weeks using emergency measures, but congress needs to act on this too to avoid a full-blown debt crisis. alina cho. joins us with the ret of the top stories. >>> former president george h.w. bush remains in intensive care in a houston hospital with an elevated fever. he is on a liquid diet an his condition is listed as guarded. his spokesman quotes him as saying i'm determined not to be dprumpy with all of this. >>> toyota has agreed to pay up in a major way, $1.1 billion to settle a class action suit over sudden acceleration issues. under the deal toyota will install a brake override system in effective cars. it will also set up a fund of $250 million for former toyota owners who sold their cars from september of 2009 through all of 2010. that money would compensate owners for their car's reduced value becaus
to trim the size and scope of government, whether it was the bush tax cuts a decade ago or whether it was the debate over the debility ceiling just over a year ago is going to likely end up as an effort to expand the size and scope of government. that's something that can only happen in washington. >> eric: both of those guys make very good points. a lot of people are asking why would you say go over the fiscal cliff? i have a lot to lose if we go over the fiscal cliff. my taxes would go up. i'm heavily invested in the stock market. it will probably take a big hit. but in the long run, the only way to solve america's debt problem -- we have a debt problem. we have a very bad debt problem. we're on our way to $20 trillion in debt, maybe 25 in the next five to ten years. the only way to fix that is go over the fiscal cliff 'cause clearly democrats don't want to cut spending. they'll have to be forced into that and the only way that happens is hit the sequestration, the things that the fiscal cliff will bring of the that's why. i'll take the medicine, the pain now for a healthier econ
to see i increase my interest because these guys can't run a government, you're looking at going toward a recession where we're playing politics in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think that people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today saying, we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that it will be all right a week or two or three or four. we start to go down that cliff, we don't know whether the momentum downward is going to be very, very damaging. >> yeah. >> maybe. >> you got na smirk on your face. >> maybe. i agree with the reverend that they're playing politics with livelihoods, because it is a huge risk. you're right about that. i disagree a little bit on the sort of dramatic, immediate impact of it. what we could get -- this is a possibility, and i'm trying to be optimistic because it's towards the end of the year. it's been crummy for a lot of people. we could get a deal the third week of january where
value, at the turn of the 20th century where government spending was 9% of gdp, we're now at 25%. there are some that say, take what we give you and retrofit government to the size of 19% or 20%. do that first. he just wants to shrink what it's grown to, this unwielding federal government that -- don't you think 25% needs to come down? >> well, part of that is cyclical. >> okay. so at 3%? >> 21, 22. >> i would say 22. >> so we have to get it down to 20.5. >> the three big beasts in the budget remain medicare/medicaid, social security and defense. you have to cut almost everything else to zero to get close to balance or to make a big difference. so i think in today's world, given that those entitlements, even if you reform them and cut back back will increase as people like us eventually retire. it seems to me that sizing the government for something around 22 or so is probably doable. but not easy to get to. because you still have to have major cuts and major long titlement reform to get there. >> you see one of the major ceo guys, and i'm not going to quote which one, said yest
majority leader harry reid now saying that it appears that the government will miss the deadline for avoiding the fiscal cliff. so what will that mean, and how will america respond come january 1st? gregg: new developments in the investigation into the deadly connecticut school shooting. jenette sises have been asked to study the gunman's dna. what can they learn about it? gregg: severe weather alert. winter warnings in effect as a brutal storm is sweeping through the u.s. it brought massive amounts of snow and even tornados to parts of country and claimed at least 15 lives. illinois was no exception. major problems on the roads as snow and sleet pounded the area, forcing some businesses to remain closed. maria molina is keeping an eye on the storm from the extreme weather center. we're going to get the latest, top of the hour. >> new year's eve is fast approaching and for decade and decade the american people have watched the ball drop in times square. it is the countdown to midnight, the start of a new year. but this year, mr. president, the american people are waiting for the
the federal government may not be able to pay its bills once the country reaches its borrowing limit on december 31st, which is monday. that could broil financial markets and lead to a financial downgrade. he proposes a series of extraordinary measures to postpone the date that the u.s. would otherwise default on its legal obligations. geithner estimates his plan would free up about $200 billion, providing roughly two months of wiggle room. >>> well, last night on "the rachel maddow show," guest host ezra klein asked former clinton budget director alice rivlin on where we could see the fallout from the fiscal cliff. >> the real uncertainty i think is what the markets will look isn't in control of its own destiny because we're acting that way right now. now, if you're an investor, whether you're in some part of the united states or you're in some other part of the world, do you really want to buy american securities? do you want to invest in a country whose government isn't functioning? i don't think so. so, we could get a big market reaction, a drop in the stock market, and that mig
. in january the supreme court ruled that before the government places a gps tracking device on your vehicle it has to get a search warrant. four months later it said that children conceived through in-vitro are not automatically entitled to benefits after the death of a parents. what the court could look like from here. doug burns a former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. and john manweli, a former criminal defense attorney. waoepl mawaoepl may not influence that the high court cases influence people practicing law day-to-day. doug -rpbgs tel tell me your thoughts on the healthcare. >> a lot of the people ran out of building saying it's been struck down. it was struck down on commerce clause grounds and the necessary and proper clause grounds. jaime: it had to be. >> there it was on page 10 that it was being upheld as a tax which i agree w. the long and short of it was it's the same analysis that we rendered all yearlong. it's 2700 pages long, i'm not sure anybody understan understands. i asked a friend of mine who is a physician can you tell me what is in the health code.
cliff, so note to the government. it does matter. >> yeah, but that's, as you say, part of it. laura, what else is going on? it just felt like we were going into a lackluster season here. what happened? >> i mean, there's been some discussion about weather trends as well, but whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff, consumers think next year we'll see higher taxes and lower entitlements. the only place in our space where we see a very significant fiscal cliff hit is aspirational customer, so the step-up customer into low-end tiffany's jewelry, for example, we just don't think they showed up this year. >> even if people, stacy, are going to be hit by higher taxes next year, at least some people are going to be hit by higher taxes next year, a lot of this is psychological, isn't it. you turn on the tv and you're feeling spooked, right? and once we have a deal or resolution, uncertainty taken away, will people unleash their spending? will this be unlocked? >> i think at the high end, yes, there will be some relief, and, you know, to laura's point, we were in tiffany over the weekend,
a year with this increase for senior executives in government. so, literally, think about this. they're talking about the fiscal cliff, they're talking about raising taxes and cutting spending. the only thing that's been accomplished thus far is to raise spending by about a billion dollars a year. >> dave: i think in particular rubs americans the wrong way when they see this, members of congress average salary, 174,000. average american, $48,000. that's on top of the fact that we see all the time, they take off, these long recesses and oh, by the way not passing bills and on top of this, this was by executive order, the president did this himself. >> yeah, it was done late at night, obviously, not great politics. i'm not quite sure what the thought process is here, maybe they think it's going to somehow incentivize members of congress to move things in a certain direction, but again, i think it's a terrible idea. it shows the disconnect with the country. keep in mind, washington d.c. last year passed the silicon valley as the town now as the highest per capita income in the country.
representative, especially their congresswoman to really push hard against the mexican government for an early release. their goal was to get him home by christmas, and they've achieved that goal. heather, back to you. heather: we are glad they're going to spend the holiday together. thank you very much. and a little background, by the way, on john hammer's arrest. it was august 13. he was enroute to costa rica with a friend when he was detained by mexican customs who claimed that he had an incorrect permit for an antique rifle that he had in the his possession. well, the friends that he was traveling were -- with were also detained but released shortly after. four months later on december 17th, the first photo was anonymously e-mailed to his father. two days ago hammer was released when a mexican judge ruled in the his favor, and he was then driven across the border into texas. that same night his father anxiously waited for him. john hammer spent a total of 132 days behind bars. gregg? ♪ gregg: an american contractor working in afghanistan has died in what could be the latest insider attac
. and you'll notice that when employer gets to around the adjusted withholding, the government spending cuts, those are also scheduled for january 1st and bound to slow the economy and some argue they'll weaken the military. congress has seen this coming, but an effort to limit the damage failed last week. republican house speaker john boehner could not persuade enough members of his party to let tax rates rise on incomes over a million dollars while sparing everyone else. dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. dana, this time tomorrow, the president is supposed to be back, having cut his trip to hawaii short, the first lady, the girls are staying in hawaii. the senate is supposed to convene, but not necessarily the house. what is going to happen? >> reporter: well, we're not really sure. in fact, house republican leaders are having a conference call, i'm told, as we speak, to figure out that very question. they told their members that they would have 48 hours notice before they reconvene the house and so at the earliest, that would be on friday. but, you know, the action reall
's when the government reaches its legal borrowing limit. treasury can delay a debt crisis for a couple of weeks until february or march using emergency measures to keep the government operating until congress acts to fix this problem, too. >>> big news from toyota. they are announcing a record $1.1 billion settlement over that unintended accelerator issue which they say does not exist. toyota has always said it's been floor malts, stuck gas pedals and operator error but they're going to settle these cases to put it behind them. the bulk of the money will go to its customers past and present. they will install brake override systems for all vehicles identified by toyota as having a problem with the floor mats getting stuck. toyota set aside $250 million to compensate owners who sold their cars while their sales were plummeting over the bad p.r. and a separate 250 million will be used to compensate owners who don't qualify for that brake override system. finally, all 16 million current toyota owners will be eligible for a warranty on certain parts related to sudden unintended acceleratio
there is no school today. good thing that most governments would be closed today, savannah? >> dave malkoff in indiana for us. thank you. >>> let's get a check of the weather from maria larosa in for al this morning. good morning, maria. >> over 300 flights canceled already. chicago, dallas, indianapolis, some of the airports that are tracking the most closures -- or most cancellations i should say. from arkansas on up into ohio. windy conditions as well. blowing snow. snow will be picking up in a lot of these areas through the afternoon. by tonight into places like western new york state we're talking six to nine inches in a wide area in blue. in purple, as much as a >> wintry weather possible for the morning. high stay near 40 degrees. it wintry >>> and you can get a look at your forecast 24/7 at just want to make sure. check off the bucket list. willie, back to you. >> maria, thank you very much. >>> pyrex is one of the best known products in our conditions but some incidents have led many to question how safe glass cookware is. pyrex says it's misleading and unfair. mike ta
to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says is he defecting to, quote, join the people's revolution. and the recovery in the housing market remains on pace. home prices rose 4.3% in october over last year, that is it the biggest percentage increase in more than two years. near record low mortgage rates and fewer foreclosures are helping spur sale which is in turn is boosting prices. and the world's longest high speed rail line is up and running and it's in, where else, china. the 1428 mile line spans more than half the country linking the capital of beijing to the southern chinese bloom city. trains will run at 186 miles per hour. >>> and civil rights icon nelson mandela has been discharged from a south africa hospital. 94-year-old former president will continue treatment at his home. he was hospitalized with a lung infection on december 8th. one week later, he had surgery to remove gallstones. i'm sure everyone's pleased to hear that he's doing well. >> thanks so much
. it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i ca
norquist and his pledge? >> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pledge, i don't know where it goes from here. obviously is doesn't have as much teeth as is it did because there are people who are willing to buck it. >> i think the key thing with the grover pledge though is that republicans feel like they're in such a corner here, the house is in disarray, boehner doesn't really know where his caucus is going to go. they're not really worried about grover's pledge. they're more worried about rebuilding the party and surviving this horrible moment when they barely control one chamber. >> okay. so i want to run this by you. charles krauthammer from "the washington post" has suggested this kind of complicated theory that the president has a bigger plan here. wonder if we can play this tape of what he says the president's strategy is. >> he's been using this, a
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